Does Anyone Understand This?
I’m a little confused about the all-nighter the Senate pulled last night. I sure would appreciate some help from anyone out there who understands how our government works.
WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Wednesday scuttled a Democratic proposal ordering troop withdrawals from Iraq in a showdown that capped an all-night debate on the war.
The 52-47 vote fell short of the 60 votes needed to cut off debate under Senate rules. It was a sound defeat for Democrats who say the U.S. military campaign, in its fifth year and requiring 158,000 troops, cannot tame the sectarian violence in Iraq.
What does it mean to “scuttle” a proposal? Here’s how I understand it: Democrats wanted to vote on whether or not to end the war. The Republicans did not want the Democrats to hold this vote. So they held an all-night session, which the Republicans filibustered.
A filibuster, in my understanding, is when politicians try to stop a vote from happening by talking until it … until what? Until people get bored of the topic and decide they don’t really care about it anymore?
Okay, so the Democrats decided to hold an all-night session to debate the war bill. But for some mysterious reason, that is not considered a filibuster. The filibuster happened when Republicans decided to participate in the all-night session. Is that correct? If so, then what’s the alternative? And then they tried to have a vote to stop discussing it. The vote was 52-47, with 52 people saying they should stop talking about it and vote on the bill. 60 votes are needed to pass this proposal to stop talking. They didn’t get the votes. So, are they still talking? How has anything been “scuttled?” If they are still talking, when do they stop? It seems to me that the decision that has been made is to not decide anything just yet, and that does not strike me as a loss. Yet this article refers to it as a “sound defeat.” What, exactly, has been defeated?
And regardless of context, how can a majority vote on anything ever be considered a sound defeat?
July 18th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
I can’t answer your questions…but I sure hope they give themselves a raise for having the tenacity to stick it out all night.